Paving the Manner: Methods for Integrating AI in Advertising

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Many entrepreneurs at this time acknowledge the potential of AI however aren’t certain begin integrating it into their methods.

The problem might be daunting—how do you successfully introduce AI into your present workflows, select the suitable instruments, and guarantee your group is supplied to leverage its capabilities? Furthermore, with myriad choices accessible, understanding the place to start and navigate the potential pitfalls can appear overwhelming.

Immediately, we’re tackling these questions with the assistance of Christopher S. Penn, a famend professional in AI and data-driven advertising and marketing. Christopher brings invaluable insights from his in depth expertise with AI implementations in varied enterprise contexts. Together with his deep data in each the technical and strategic elements of AI, he’ll share sensible methods and real-world examples that will help you pave the way in which for AI integration in your advertising and marketing efforts, making the method extra manageable and efficient.

Christopher will stroll us by way of the essential steps to get began, choose the suitable AI instruments on your wants, and the significance of group coaching and upskilling. We’ll additionally delve into frequent challenges and measure the success of your AI initiatives. By the tip of this episode, you’ll have a clearer roadmap for integrating AI into your advertising and marketing technique, making certain that your online business is just not solely ready for the longer term however main the cost in innovation.

AI in Advertising: Unpacked host Mike Allton requested Christopher S. Penn about:

✨ Beginning with AI: Study the preliminary steps companies ought to take when integrating AI into their advertising and marketing methods.

✨ Selecting the Proper Instruments: Perceive choose AI instruments that suit your particular advertising and marketing wants.

✨ Coaching and Measuring Success: Uncover the significance of group coaching and measure the success of AI initiatives.

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Paving the Manner: Methods for Integrating AI in Advertising

[00:00:00] Christopher S. Penn: So we exported that knowledge out of there, mixed it. with a few the shopper’s different proprietary knowledge sources and assist them create ultimate buyer profiles for each section of their market primarily based on what the viewers likes, like what their pursuits are like films and purchasing and TV, sure sorts of TV reveals, sure sorts of music, et cetera.

And made this accessible to them in order that their advertising and marketing groups can now successfully do artificial focus teams the place they’ll speak to a persona and get actual solutions about like, what ought to we modify on this electronic mail? That’s going to exit to X million individuals. What can we modify on this electronic mail that can get increased click on by way of charges that can get extra curiosity in issues.

And so we rolled this out. And the half that astonished the shopper was that they had been going to do that a unique approach. It was going to be a 12 month venture. And we’re like, fairly certain we may also help you on the market. Um, so we spun up a brand new scope of labor and work with them and the preliminary buyer profiles had been finished in 10 days.

[00:00:58] Mike Allton: Welcome to AI in Advertising: Unpacked, the place we simplify AI for impactful advertising and marketing. I’m your host, Mike Alden right here to information you thru the world of synthetic intelligence and its transformative impression on advertising and marketing methods. Every episode, we’ll break down AI ideas into manageable insights and discover sensible purposes that may supercharge your advertising and marketing efforts.

Whether or not you’re an skilled marketer simply beginning to discover the potential of AI, this podcast will equip you with the data and instruments it’s essential to succeed. So tune in and let’s unlock the ability of AI collectively.

Greetings program. Welcome again to AI in Advertising: Unpacked the place I selfishly use this time to select the brains of specialists at maintaining with and integrating or layering synthetic intelligence into social media, content material, promoting, search, and different areas, digital advertising and marketing. Oh, and also you get to study to subscribe to discover ways to put together your self and your model for this AI revolution and are available out forward.

Now, many entrepreneurs at this time acknowledge the potential of AI. However they’re unsure begin integrating it into their methods. Problem might be daunting. How do you successfully introduce AI into your present workflows? Select the suitable instruments and guarantee your group is supplied to leverage it, all of its capabilities.

Furthermore, with myriad choices accessible, understanding the place to start now to navigate the pitfalls can appear daunting. Immediately we’re tackling these questions with the assistance of Christopher Penn, a famend professional in AI and knowledge pushed advertising and marketing. Chris brings invaluable insights from his in depth expertise with AI implementations in varied enterprise contexts.

Together with his deep data in each the technical and strategic elements of AI, he’ll share sensible methods and actual world examples that will help you pave the way in which for AI integration in your advertising and marketing efforts. Making the method extra manageable and efficient. Chris goes to stroll us by way of the essential steps to get began, choose the suitable AI instruments on your wants and the significance of group coaching and upskilling.

We’ll additionally delve into frequent challenges and measure the success of your AI initiatives. By the tip of this episode, you’ll have a transparent roadmap for integrating AI into your advertising and marketing technique, making certain that your online business is just not solely making ready for the longer term, however main the cost in innovation.

Hey, Chris, welcome to the present. Thanks for having me. So excited to leap into this with you. I do know we’re going to cowl a number of floor at this time, however to begin, are you able to inform us about your journey into AI and what led you to deal with this intersection of applied sciences? Positive. So

[00:03:20] Christopher S. Penn: I feel earlier than we try this, we should always even speak about what AI is as a result of there’s three main branches of it.

There’s regression, there’s classification, there’s technology. Now we like to make use of the acronym FOG, discover, manage, and generate. The primary to search out and manage that what we name classical AI. So that is stuff that’s as outdated as like, goes again to the Fifties. We’re speaking the entrepreneurs would know as issues like uplift modeling, advertising and marketing combine modeling, attribution, that’s that type of regression primarily based generative a classical AI, organized classification is, hey, I’ve bought all this knowledge, I’ve bought, you understand, a gazillion and a half social media posts, assist me categorize, put them in matters, bucket them and issues like that.

So organizing your knowledge. And once more, entrepreneurs have seen that even one thing easy as like a phrase cloud, like that’s That’s classification. The third department is technology, which makes use of the applied sciences of. regression and classification to make stuff to have AI make issues. So by way of my journey, I began in, I began advertising and marketing know-how within the early 2000s, at a monetary companies startup.

After which in 2005, Google purchased this firm referred to as urchin, which then they rebranded and began giving freely as a as a service referred to as Google Analytics. In 2012. I left the corporate I used to be at to enter PR agency as a result of they had been having some actually difficult measurement issues. Like, how do you measure the impression of PR when there’s nothing to click on on?

And a part of that was digging going from straight statistics into knowledge science and machine studying classical AI to resolve, okay, how can we resolve this drawback mathematically, and that was my first introduction to what we now name AI. So 2012 2013, that’s after I began doing a number of coding and are a number of statistical stuff, a number of knowledge science stuff.

After which, after all, in 2017, my account director on the time and I made a decision we had been going to we we noticed the place classical AI was going like there’s legs to this factor. And the PR from what was entering into a unique path. And so we parted methods and we’ve, we determined to change issues up. And so Katie Katie Robert and I co based belief insights and we launched in 2018 and our focus has been on.

analytics, knowledge science and AI. That’s the place we at the moment are. And naturally, you understand, in, in November 22 open AI pivots, what would then was it’s a GPT three mannequin into that was within the playground into manufacturing with a mannequin referred to as instruct GPT. And all of us the final inhabitants had realized about by way of a service referred to as chat GPT.

After which instantly everybody’s an AI professional

[00:06:05] Mike Allton: instantly in a single day, proper? However I recognize you sharing that as a result of we’ve identified one another for a very long time. I feel I met you in individual 20, 16, 2017, one thing like that. 2015 content material advertising and marketing position. And I, I, even to that time, I didn’t notice how invested you had been in, within the ideas of AI.

So way back, as a result of as a result of to your level, a number of us and myself included have pivoted into AI extraordinarily lately, like inside the matter of days for a few of us. This has been your playground for some time.

[00:06:39] Christopher S. Penn: Sure, this has been the factor about machine studying and synthetic intelligence is that once you once you take away all of the hype.

All of these items are simply prediction engines primarily based on likelihood. And when you perceive the structure of how these programs work, you may make them work higher. I imply, that’s, that’s basically, once you look, for instance, on the inside workings of a transformer primarily based mannequin, like those that energy chat GPT, and also you learn the educational papers on stuff, you begin studying in regards to the architectural options below the hood.

And the analogy I likened to is a blender. Most individuals know what a blender is, and so they know what it is best to put in it, however you shouldn’t put in it like when you’re making steak, incorrect software. However that’s about it. A sure subset of individuals know {that a} blender is definitely an electromagnet, you understand, there’s electrical energy, there’s wires, copper coils, that drives an axle that you understand, blends issues, and so they can take that aside, they’ll perceive, okay, nicely, the blender is just not working.

Nicely, right here’s why this a part of the drivetrain is damaged. Once we take into consideration AI. and maximizing efficiency. And to your level, integrating it into advertising and marketing into enterprises, you’ve bought to go from I do know what to do with a blender to, you understand, can I repair the blender if it breaks? How ought to blenders be rolled out throughout our firm?

who must be allowed entry to the blender, proper? Don’t don’t don’t give entry to one who’s bought to stay their hand in there. And understanding when is the blender the suitable software. So there’s a number of that that goes into these items. After which how do you make the blender a part of the workflow? How do you join different instruments to the blender?

how do you are taking the outputs of the blender and use them? For instance, when you’re making steak and also you wish to tenderize a steak, take a blender, take some pineapple, mix that pineapple up, put it on the steak and let it sit for an hour and you should have actually tenderized steak as a result of the bromelain inside pineapple really digests some meat proteins.

Pineapple is the one meals that once you eat it, it eats you

[00:08:42] Mike Allton: Okay, that is an analogy that may be utilized in a number of alternative ways, however I recognize the reminder that persons are completely different levels of understanding this know-how, as a result of it’s one thing I’ve to continuously remind myself after I’m speaking to my audiences. I studied pc science In school, and I was an it sale.

So I’m watching, you understand, Jensen’s keynote deal with for the NVIDIA developer convention, and I used to be understanding nearly the whole lot he was speaking about with, with chips and semiconductors, all these sorts of issues. However not all people else understands that everyone else must. So these of you listening, you don’t essentially want to grasp all of these items, however Chris’s analogy is.

It’s good. It’s essential to perceive what the blender is, the way it works, when to make use of it. So let’s get into that, proper? What are a few of these first steps {that a} enterprise ought to take once they’re type of contemplating integrating AI particularly into their advertising and marketing technique?

[00:09:34] Christopher S. Penn: So unsurprisingly, I’m going to go forward and share my display screen right here.

We’ve a complete framework for this. So my firm belief occasion, we do that as actually as consulting. So the, the, the bottom of the framework is goal. Why are you doing it? Proper? What’s the enterprise goal for doing one thing? As a result of a number of the occasions, and that is particularly any hype cycle, there’s lots of people who like, we’ve bought to make use of AI.

You recognize, why, proper? What are you attempting to do? What’s the enterprise end result you’re attempting to do? After which on the high of that is what. are you going to make use of to measure that AI was the suitable selection, proper? If you happen to don’t have these two bookends, it’s like a sandwich, prefer it’s like a BLT. However you don’t have the bread.

So like, okay, I’ve bought a salad. This sucks. Even the salad has bacon in it. It’s not what you wished. And so that you’ve bought to have these first few components down. And anytime you’re serious about AI purposes, you’ve bought to have your goal, you’ve bought to have a system of measurement that tells you that you just did the factor.

Typically talking with AI. any type of AI, you’re searching for one among three key outcomes, save time, get monetary savings, or earn a living, proper? And that’s, that’s it. Like when you can’t join the venture, the thought of the use case to avoid wasting time, get monetary savings, earn a living, it’s do a it must be since you’re simply going to waste a complete bunch of time.

Now when you’re doing it, in case your job is R& D, completely completely different than it’s like, what can we study? However even there, what can we study nonetheless ought to have some line of sight to avoid wasting time, get monetary savings, earn a living. In order that’s the primary half. Second half is there’s there’s type of a hierarchy of the use instances for AI, which is the method column.

There’s on the very baseline, particular person prompting utilization, hey, we’re utilizing chat GPT, proper? That’s just about like 98 99 p.c of persons are there at this time, and that’s advantageous. particular person workers, shopper AI interfaces, like chat GPT, that’s the place you bought to begin. Since you want individuals to purchase into it, you want executives to see, okay, it’s not going to finish my firm instantly, proper.

And constructing that that type of consolation, the second degree systematized immediate administration, now we’re beginning to speak about scaling issues, proper. So as a substitute of you utilizing island of your personal, you and your group have some type of data administration software program, some type of data administration retailer, there’s, there’s some venture administration round that.

So hey, we’re going to make use of this to generate content material, we’re going to make use of this to course of buyer complaints, we’re going to make use of this to research technique, regardless of the factor is, you’re now beginning to have that systematization of your prompting, perhaps a few of your knowledge units just a little bit. Your third degree is now beginning to simplify the UI and standardize.

Now we’re speaking about constructing interfaces round these items. So for instance, customized GPT is in in chat GPT, the place you may construct a goal constructed software, you simplify what individuals must do with a view to work together with an utility. Your fourth degree development is we’re constructing API’s and full apps, Google Vertex, for instance, the place you’re going to construct a chat bot that internally is in your slack.

And like, for instance, the one factor we do, we simply do that for buyer, we constructed a perfect buyer profile, synthesized all the info constructed ultimate buyer profile, after which put it right into a vertex chatbot in slack. So now when advertising and marketing goes, Ah, you understand, I’m wondering what the shopper consider this, you speak to, I feel we referred to as ours, Emily Thompson, you simply chat at her in Slack and say, Emily, what do you consider this electronic mail that’s about to exit?

You recognize, how would you are feeling as a buyer? And he or she goes, ah, you understand, it doesn’t actually enchantment to me. It’s it’s, you understand, and so they say, Okay, nicely, what would enchantment to you? Nicely, perhaps she stated it like this. And for those who’s now now you’re taking away generative AI as a factor it’s a must to do and making it accessible any person as a service, proper?

This can be a this you’re constructing a service like okay, I can speak to this individual. After that you just begin entering into knowledge engineering. Like what knowledge do you’ve as an organization? that you could leverage in these instruments to make higher personas to make higher methods, and so on. That’s second to the very best degree is advantageous tuning customized fashions.

And also you discovered that one factor that’s so mission important that you just’re going to construct your personal AI round it. And that the peak of your evolution AI is in every single place. And it’s like electrical energy, you don’t even give it some thought anymore. It’s simply half and parcel of you as an organization. So the framework for a way can we take into consideration rolling out AI integrating into our advertising and marketing appears to be like like this.

And you’ll see within the individuals column, it’s not simply advertising and marketing. If you would like this to succeed, you’re speaking about integration, throughout a number of departments. If you happen to take a look at the platform that you just’re speaking about integration throughout a number of instruments, you can’t no advertising and marketing group, no advertising and marketing division can totally see the advantages of generative AI with out collaboration.

[00:14:28] Mike Allton: And simply as a fast notice to these of you listening, we’ll have the hyperlinks to the whole lot that Chris was speaking about. And these, these slides within the present notes, when you’re not when you’re listening in your cellphone, we’ll have that for you. However A few issues that you just stated that actually stood out to me first.

I really like the use case of getting that slack integration. I’ve been imagining one thing just a little bit related for our gross sales group at Agorapulse. We’ve an incredible wealth of assets, weblog posts, podcasts, video snippets, and so forth that talk to particular pan factors that our goal audiences. Are going by way of and we wish to equip our gross sales group with these assets, however when you go like 10 hyperlinks, it turns into just a little advanced and virtually unattainable for a person age.

Keep in mind the whole lot that we’ve ever created on each platform which may communicate to any potential ache level. And so I’m considering, nicely, that is good for AI. And I don’t know if that that slack integration Or that Vertex, how did, what was it? So

[00:15:24] Christopher S. Penn: it’s Google’s Vertex AI studio is the surroundings you construct that in.[00:15:29] Mike Allton: Yeah. And also you suppose that might most likely be an excellent platform for that type of an answer as nicely.[00:15:34] Christopher S. Penn: Possibly. It is dependent upon your gross sales group. It is dependent upon your gross sales group. CRM and infrastructure as a result of clearly completely different CRMs have completely different capabilities, proper? HubSpot has chat spot. Salesforce has Einstein, all people and their cousins, you understand, to some extent appropriately is attempting to determine how do you combine generative AI and pure language prompting in advanced software program as a result of That’s a heck of lots simpler to, you understand, once we present this to, you understand, gross sales executives we are saying, you understand, which might you favor to do, you understand, 28 clicks to get to your dashboard on your pipeline or go to speak spot and say, what’s my gross sales pipeline appear like at this time?

And it simply says, right here’s, right here’s gross sales pipeline. That’s a lot extra pure for individuals.

[00:16:13] Mike Allton: That’s a very nice level. Perception. We’re utilizing each HubSpot and Salesforce, however I’m fairly certain the gross sales group is targeted on the Salesforce aspect. So we’ll must look into utilizing Einstein, however that leads me into my subsequent query with all these instruments that aren’t solely being created as AI powered instruments, however like, On this case, Salesforce, they’re integrating AI into each side of the software.

How do enterprise go about approaching and deciding on the suitable AI instruments or platforms for his or her particular wants?

[00:16:44] Christopher S. Penn: Unsurprisingly, this, this framework is your blueprint for that, as a result of if you understand the place you might be. And you understand the place you wish to go, you may then begin doing formal necessities gathering to ask, Okay, what, what do we would like to have the ability to do?

Proper? So the one of many greatest challenges with with synthetic intelligence, significantly generative AI and language fashions is that language, identify a single operate in your organization that doesn’t use language, proper? There isn’t. it’s it’s it’s actually how we talk as human beings. And in consequence, something that’s language is a chance to make use of a language mannequin to do.

So the use instances are actually infinite, there’s there’s no scarcity of them. When it comes to the know-how, the know-how is what you choose final. You’ve gotta have, who’re the individuals concerned? What are the processes which might be, which might be in place proper now? There may be, lemme go discover it actual fast. The over on our web site we’ve a, a framework that we name journeys.

And it stands for it’s an a free obtain you will get with, there’s not even a kind to fill out as a result of. We’re attempting to inter share as a lot primary stuff about AI as we will. So the journeys framework is that this 5 classes that you just rating any given AI process or any AI given process as as to whether must be AI or not.

Primary time, how a lot time does the duty eat updating Salesforce? takes a number of time, proper? That’s and that’s an enormous one to how repetitive is the duty. salespeople must replace their CRM, proper? As one thing you do, you’re imagined to do it each day. Some most, you understand, SDRs and stuff will do it like as soon as every week, perhaps, proper?

However it’s extremely repetitive. Three, how essential is the duty? That is one’s a little bit of a psychological twist. The much less essential the duty is, the higher as a result of the extra essential it’s, the extra it’s going to possible want human evaluate, proper? You don’t want some a bunch of duties, you simply don’t wish to hand off to a machine simply stroll away from quantity 4, how nice is the duty who loves updating Salesforce?

Nobody, proper? Much less nice process is the extra candidates for AI. And fifth, do you’ve examples of how the duty is meant to be finished? What number of examples you’ve, the extra examples you’ve, the higher, that’s adequate knowledge. So this journeys framework is a method to do your take a look at your processes, rating your processes, after which When you’ve finished that, you principally have the necessities you may say, Okay, nicely, now we have to discover a vendor that can do these these units of duties.

And right here’s how the duty works. And right here’s how we do it proper now vendor, present me how you’ll your software maps to this. And if you wish to get fancy, you construct your necessities doc, proper? Any brd anybody who’s ever finished a brd, you understand, enterprise necessities doc, you wish to flush that out. Right here’s what we right here’s like, what you should have good to have, don’t need, and so on.

And that goes goes in there, you then get intelligent, you go to a software like Google’s Gemini or anthropocloud three and say, right here’s my enterprise necessities, construct me a scoring rubric. for this of assess it. And you then subject your RFP. And you then get the seller RFP responses and also you say rating every RFP in accordance with my rubric for my necessities.

And let’s construct the shortlist of which distributors fulfill the necessities and we’ll, we’ll dramatically pace up the enjoyment of RFPs. And choose a vendor that, that matches the necessities.

[00:20:21] Mike Allton: I really like that concept. We’re speaking a few new software choice right here at Agorapulse and never AI associated the software itself, however the course of that we’re going to undergo, you simply outlined, I feel it’s going to avoid wasting us a number of time and also you jogged my memory of this incredible beam that’s going round the place the girl says, I don’t want AI.

To create photographs and write for me. I would like a I to do my laundry, do my dishes, chatting with the issues which might be disagreeable that we don’t wish to try this. We’d love for programs like a I to take over. However you even have me questioning once you’re speaking to companies about how they’re integrating a I, this looks as if one thing that not solely ought to individuals be speaking to about, however There must be somebody who’s really making selections on behalf of the corporate, on behalf of departments.

Are you seeing readability in who these people must be inside organizations,

[00:21:16] Christopher S. Penn: who they need to be and who they really are two completely different tales, who they need to be is your AI process drive, proper? So you’d have an AI process drive of stakeholders. from three completely different ranges in your group, you’ve your executives, you’ve your administration, and you’ve got your workers and you’ve got in order that’s by way of type of the horizontal when you can broadly think about that in your group, after which you’ve your verticals, HR, finance, advertising and marketing, gross sales.

Ideally, your process drive has one individual from every degree in every vertical. In order that as a collaborative group to say like that is what we wish to do. with this know-how. Everybody do your journeys framework, everybody define all of your duties, collect up all of our data and work out what are the priorities of the group, what issues what issues are simply time sucks, proper?

I labored on the PR agency, there was this one place account coordinator on the agency, that individual’s job was to repeat and paste Google search outcomes right into a spreadsheet for purchasers 40 hours every week. That could be a large time suck. That could be a waste of human potential that that doesn’t even want AI like that’s simply primary API automation, however they didn’t have the capability to try this.

With generative AI, you may write the code, not be a coder, write the code to try this, run the code after which take away that thoughts numbing disagreeable process and get that human expert up on like shopper relations. Who amongst all of us wouldn’t need extra consideration and higher service from our distributors, proper? To have somebody who will reply the cellphone once we name?

Nicely, when you release individuals from doing Boring shit like that. And it’ll copy pasting all day. While you choose up the cellphone, they’ll, you understand, somebody can reply.

[00:23:02] Mike Allton: Completely. And so I feel we touched proper there on one of many main challenges dealing with companies is, you understand, who do they faucet? How do they manage that?

They’re fighting that. People inside the group are making selections for themselves. With none type of oversight or communication or training on the fundamentals of AI instruments, not to mention something that’s just a little extra advanced by way of the way it’s going to learn the enterprise. However what are the challenges?

Have you ever, are you seeing companies face in relation to implementing AI?

[00:23:31] Christopher S. Penn: There’s a bunch. So the, the challenges once more, return to individuals course of and platform platform is sort of by no means the problem. Nicely, really, that’s not true. A variety of corporations have, they don’t have an excellent understanding of what the muse instruments like chat GPT or Claude or Google Gemini, what they’re able to.

In order that they find yourself shopping for a complete bunch of software program from a complete bunch of distributors that promise them magic. And the truth is 80 p.c of the duties that you are able to do with a for utilizing generative AI you are able to do with a basis software, proper? You don’t want to purchase a vendor’s software. So that you actually don’t want to purchase a vendor’s software to put in writing weblog posts, proper?

That’s that may be a full waste of cash. In order that’s an enormous half is knowing what the know-how is able to on the platform aspect. However the larger obstacles are individuals in course of. So with course of, what knowledge do you’ve? The place is it? What situation is it in? Can you employ it? And there’s there’s not a complete corporations don’t actually have an excellent deal with on they haven’t had a deal with on that ever.

One of many issues my co founders Katie says typically is that new know-how doesn’t resolve outdated issues, significantly when the issues are individuals, you understand, take one thing like a gross sales executives, proper gross sales executives. don’t like updating Salesforce, this isn’t a brand new drawback. And no quantity of know-how goes to resolve it, you may have issues which might be simpler, proper?

You’ll be able to say, Okay, hey, you understand what, as a substitute of updating Salesforce, simply depart me a voicemail. And we’ll have AI transcribe it transfer that into Salesforce. However on the similar time, you continue to must get that individual to wish to replace Salesforce. And, you understand, there’s there’s quite a lot of incentives and issues, however that’s not a know-how drawback.

That’s not an AI drawback. That could be a you employed a recalcitrant salesperson drawback. And that’s that’s the problem throughout the board in relation to AI integration and AI usually is a few individuals assume it’s magic. It’s not magic. It’s a prediction engine. Some individuals assume that it’s going to take their job and about 40 p.c of persons are right.

And Some individuals assume that the know-how is simply all hype, and that’s additionally incorrect. So there’s a large spectrum of much less right beliefs in regards to the know-how. And the important factor that corporations must be doing is knowing what the know-how is and isn’t able to figuring out individuals inside the group who’re already utilizing it.

trace, it’s three quarters of your group. At the very least in accordance with the Microsoft 2024 work development index stories, three quarters of workers are utilizing it with or with out permission, which signifies that your company knowledge is leaking out to different locations. Knowledge safety and knowledge privateness are clearly issues.

So it’s essential to be serious about governance, the way you’re going to control not simply use AI, however use of your knowledge with AI. After which there’s the authorized aspect of issues. What are you able to and might you not use AI for? For instance, it’s fairly look virtually throughout the globe. In most international locations, below the regulation, machine generated content material can’t be copyrighted, proper?

As a result of machine made within the US 2018 case, Nero versus Slater, a chimpanzee took a selfie, this went to court docket, the photographer tried to copyright this went to court docket, and the court docket dominated the chip did the work, not the human. And chips can’t maintain copyright, as a result of they’ll’t defend it in court docket as a result of they’re chips.

And due to this fact, this footage within the public area, it can’t be copyrighted. This has been prolonged to human to AI, you understand, chat CPT won’t present up in court docket to defend itself. And so machine generated content material can’t be copyrighted. In case you are an organization, say that you just’re a advertising and marketing company, and in your contracts, it says you all work you present is figure for rent and also you assign copyrights to the shopper.

you can’t assign a copyright to a doc that doesn’t have copyright, you you might be technically in breach of contract. So it’s essential to have a sit down along with your authorized group, and it’s a must to sit down along with your purchasers, it’s a must to sit down and clarify like, right here’s what’s inbounds and out of bounds. it’s most likely a superbly okay use case on your month-to-month abstract of your advertising and marketing actions to be AI generated since you hand that to the shopper.

They’re not going to place it on their web site, proper? It’s an inside doc, completely advantageous use case. You hand an book that you just wrote with AI and the shopper places it up on their web site. It’s very clearly written by machine, the competitor steals that the shopper tries to sue and the competitor says that is AI generated, you may’t sue me as a result of there’s no copyright.

Now you you’ve put your shopper in a scorching spot. So all these are issues that problem corporations once they’re serious about integrating AI into their workflows that it’s essential to have an excellent process drive that’s aware of the problems. In order that they know what to do about it.

[00:28:16] Mike Allton: Improbable instance of why that’s so essential.

And it’s humorous, you stated AI is just not magic. Arthur C. Clark may argue that it’s sufficiently superior know-how to seem as magic to many people. So give us an instance of a use of AI in advertising and marketing that maybe you’ve been concerned with that that’s been very profitable and, and actually, it would even seem magical to some.

[00:28:43] Christopher S. Penn: So lately at one among our purchasers they, they wanted to have a approach for his or her advertising and marketing group and their market analysis group to have the ability to effectively perceive the wants of their prospects. is an enormous, large B2C firm. And I stated, we, we’ve knowledge right here someplace we don’t know the place we don’t know what we’ve.

And I stated, Nice, do you’ve Google Analytics? Like, sure, we do someplace. So after just a little little bit of poking round, we had been in a position to get entry to Google Analytics. And what lots of people don’t know is that inside Google Analytics, due to Google’s advert programs, you will get issues like demographic knowledge about your audiences, get what they’re focused on, their pursuits and affinities and stuff.

So we exported that knowledge out of there, mixed it with a few the shopper’s different proprietary knowledge sources, and assist them create ultimate buyer profiles for each section of their market primarily based on what the viewers is. what their pursuits are like films and purchasing and TV, sure sorts of TV reveals, sure sorts of music, and so on.

And made this accessible to them in order that they’ll then their advertising and marketing groups can now successfully do artificial focus teams the place they’ll speak to a persona that’s assembled by generative AI from their proprietary knowledge plus Google’s knowledge. And get actual solutions about like, what ought to we modify on this electronic mail?

That’s going to exit to X million individuals. What can we modify on this electronic mail that can get. increased click on by way of charges that can get extra curiosity in issues. And so we rolled this out. And the half that astonished the shopper was that this was, they had been going to do that a unique approach. It was going to be a 12 month venture.

And we’re like, fairly certain we may also help you on the market. So we spun up a brand new scope of labor and work with them. And the preliminary buyer profiles had been finished in 10 days.

[00:30:36] Mike Allton: Wow.

Any, anybody who has waited and waited and waited for the division, the corporate to create these sorts of ICPs can relate to the surprised issue of that exact venture.

That’s wonderful. It was a number of enjoyable, actually cool. Yeah, I guess. And I’m certain they had been, they had been happy. And I’ve seen, you understand, to your level earlier, I’ve seen a number of instruments and startups declare to have the ability to create ICPS for corporations. They’re speaking about bringing in knowledge from throughout the net, nevertheless it’s not customized to that firm.

They’re not that exact firm’s analytics and analyzing it the way in which that you just simply described. It’s simply it. basic, if I’m on this business, and I’m this type of enterprise, who am I speaking to? And that’s good. However I feel it’s a lot extra highly effective in the event that they’re utilizing the precise knowledge that’s accessible to them.

[00:31:29] Christopher S. Penn: And right here’s the factor. That is one thing I finish my keynotes with. There’s two issues that can set you aside in in success for generative, all types of AI, however generative AI particularly. Primary, is the standard and amount of your concepts. These instruments are ability levelers, proper? They, they may also help. There’s a research from BCG and Wharton final summer time, that confirmed that when given AI, the in a to 700 consultants, the individuals within the AI check group who’re within the low 50 p.c of the underperformers, once they used generative AI, they turned they scored increased on 14 separate duties than the highest 50 p.c excessive efficiency or flip low efficiency at a excessive efficiency in 5 hours, proper?

That could be a big efficiency leap. And so once we’re these, you understand, profitable integrations and issues, it truly is nearly getting individuals to, to grasp what’s attainable. So their ability ranges, their ability ranges, which signifies that one of many large differentiators is the standard and amount of your concepts, whoever has probably the most finest concepts.

will win as a result of generative AI will do the precise work. The second key differentiating issue that can make or break your AI efforts is especially in significantly in advertising and marketing is whoever has probably the most finest knowledge. If you happen to go right into a software like Gemini or chat GPT, and also you say let’s, you understand, let’s write a weblog submit, we’ll do a pedestrian examination, let’s write a weblog submit and provides it a top level view.

And it does the factor like, okay, nice, I wrote the define. That was cool. If, then again, you had, say 28 educational papers on the subject, you may carry these in, merge them collectively, synthesize a top level view primarily based on that particular knowledge, and create one thing that’s so distinctive and compelling. I did this final weekend for enjoyable.

In fact, I used to be. Nicely, I used to be actually I noticed a submit on LinkedIn that actually pissed me off. It was this LinkedIn guru, study the seven secret hacks that must be unlawful on LinkedIn. I bought this bullshit. And so I went in to LinkedIn’s engineering weblog, I extracted 70 weblog posts from their engineers that they freely speak about how the LinkedIn algorithm works just like the completely different applied sciences.

I went to archive and I pulled 28 educational papers that LinkedIn engineers had submitted to completely different conferences about how they use AI LinkedIn, and the way their programs work. I pulled a number of interviews with Tim Yorker, their head of engineering, that he’s finished on varied podcasts like this week in advertising and marketing and AI.

This week in machine studying AI, I grabbed all this data shoved into Gemini was seven ish hundred thousand phrases, give or take. And I stated, from all this synthesize how LinkedIn’s algorithm really works. And it did a fantastic job. I stated, Okay, present me all of the applied sciences first. I stated, No, I submit one thing on LinkedIn, stroll me by way of each single step of what occurs to that submit on LinkedIn, what system interacts with the way it scores, the way it charges and stuff like that.

And it did that. So good, nice. Now you’re going to offer me a primary LinkedIn advertising and marketing technique to extend the visibility of my content material. within the LinkedIn information feed, and it spit out a pleasant define. I stated, Nice. Now, I would like you to offer me an intermediate one. it’s all proper within the primary present me the intermediate stuff and gave me a brand new collection of suggestions.

It’s a fantastic now let’s assume I’m a very superior consumer. Don’t present me something that you just’ve proven me in primary and intermediate present me simply the superior stuff. And it gave me some very technical issues to do with LinkedIn. And I instantly had a 20 web page e book on how LinkedIn works. We’re really supplying you with’re giving this manner it’s on it’s on the belief occasion web site.

If you wish to seize a duplicate of it’s completely free. Then As a result of I really like poking the bear. I went to YouTube and I grabbed 20 completely different movies from the so referred to as LinkedIn gurus, you understand, the secrets and techniques it’s essential to know, I grabbed all of the closed captions, all these movies, I put them into Gemini two. And I stated, Now, examine and distinction the recommendation that the gurus are giving with what LinkedIn engineering really stated.

And there’s an extended doc that I despatched to some mates who work at LinkedIn. And Anytime you see that, you understand, one among these gurus spouting off, be at liberty to slap them with, and right here’s the way you’re incorrect about the way it really works. As a result of it seems there is no such thing as a such factor because the LinkedIn algorithm.

There’s 13 separate impartial AI programs that each one work collectively to, to resolve what’s newsfeed. So your so referred to as hack actually you understand, any outcomes you’re getting are largely coincidence. And oh, by the way in which, similar to Fb, LinkedIn recompiles its algorithm on like an hourly foundation throughout its 13 petabyte servers which might be preserve all the community graph in reminiscence and synchronized throughout the planet.

Like the entire system is astonishing and the way superior it’s. how briskly it’s. And the, you understand, these, these, these so referred to as gurus perceive none of it. And that’s an instance how individuals must be serious about utilizing these instruments like that is a bonus. If you understand the place the info is, And you’ll have these instruments synthesize it and discover connections in them that you could’t discover.

As a result of your mind my mind can’t preserve 700, 000 phrases of knowledge in reminiscence unexpectedly. These instruments can try this. It’s unbelievable. And it’s a it’s a such a robust benefit for you as an organization. So lengthy story quick, the standard and amount of your concepts. We’ll make you win with AI and the standard and amount of your knowledge that you just carry to the occasion will make you win with AI.

[00:37:00] Mike Allton: Yeah. And it’s incredible how these instruments are getting stronger and higher and extra highly effective each single day. We, once more, you understand, throw again to that, that Nvidia keynote, we noticed that, you understand, that they’re, They’re processing energy that, that, you understand, we’re going to have at our fingertips, actually inside a matter of months, as these new chips get rolled out, it’s going to be phenomenal.

And I recognize you sharing a few use instances and tales, as a result of that’s one among my functions with this present, these of you listening. Stick round since you’re going to listen to so lots of these sorts of use instances sooner or later episodes. And I feel that’s how we’re all going to increase our understanding of what’s on the market, what’s attainable.

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[00:39:11] Christopher S. Penn: It comes again all the way down to the, that 5P framework that Katie invented. If you happen to haven’t found out what the aim is.

that’s aligned with these objectives, then yeah, your AI initiatives going to go nowhere. As a result of in some unspecified time in the future, somebody’s gonna say, what are we spending all this money and time on? And what do it’s a must to present for it? If you happen to begin out by saying we’re going to take the position of account coordinator and release 40 hours every week.

And once more, release that individual. Then once you try this with AI, individuals like, wow, you probably did it. Good job, proper? So it’s a must to be clear on the aim and efficiency of any venture, not only a up any venture up entrance, in order that you understand what you’re attempting to get. And the best approach to try this is thru having your stakeholders construct a consumer story.

And once more, that is one thing that Katie talks about on a regular basis. A consumer story is an actual easy three half Mad Lib as a your position, I must a process. In order that end result, proper, when you can have stakeholders or anybody fill out these mad libs, and you understand, for each process that they’ve, it turns into abundantly clear what the aim is, and the way you’re going to measure the end result.

As a content material marketer, I would like to put in writing 1500 phrase weblog posts in lower than 5 hours every in order that I’m not spending my total day and a part of my evenings writing content material for my web site. Proper? Simply with that assertion, you go, Okay, nicely, our measure of success goes to be how a lot time it takes you to put in writing a weblog submit.

There isn’t something talked about there about high quality, however we most likely may wish to ask about that. Yeah, may wish to say in order that I write higher rating weblog posts in lower than 5 hours. it turns into clear what the duty is, what the method is, proper? It’s a writing course of. We all know who’s concerned, which is you.

And instantly, by writing out that Mad Lib, you perceive how AI goes to play a job, proper? As a result of AI goes to perhaps do the primary draft or the define or assist you brainstorm or perhaps even do the second draft or do some developmental enhancing, regardless of the process is inside the writing course of the place you’re getting slowed down.

That’s the place the machine’s going to step in and assist you with that process. That’s the way you, that’s the way you obtain alignment. The very worst factor you may presumably do is begin with AI, proper? And say, let’s use AI for one thing like, let’s use a, let’s use a blender for one thing. Nicely, that’s a bit ambiguous, proper?

If you happen to’re making soup, certain. If you happen to’re making steak, no. However when you don’t know what you’re making, it’s like, I’m simply going to mix issues. It’s not going to go nicely. You recognize, your goldfish could be very sad with you. So the. That’s the simple reply. Know what your goal and efficiency is first, then work out the opposite stuff and do the AI half final.

[00:41:56] Mike Allton: That makes a number of sense. It was type of how I approached podcasting. These of you listening might or might not know. I now have six podcasts that I’m internet hosting and I used to be usually spending an hour or two making ready for every. Episode now with the assistance of AI bringing in analysis on the company, it’s serving to me craft questions, perceive what they’re actually going to wish to speak about and what they’re wonderful at.

This present is an ideal instance. I’m utilizing a customized GPT for each single present now to construct out my pre present doc, which I share with the company. And it’s, you understand, whittled that point all the way down to a half an hour or much less. It’s unbelievable how a lot time that saved, which I can now commit to discovering extra company and all the opposite issues which might be essential to my position.

However you talked about the price and I wish to contact on that as a result of a few of the individuals listening could be involved about or hesitant about the price and the complexity of integrating AI. What recommendation would you share with them?

[00:42:48] Christopher S. Penn: Once more, it goes again to understanding the aim and the efficiency, proper?

What’s 4 hours every week price, proper? What’s your invoice price? In case your invoice charges 300 an hour, it can save you 4 hours every week, that’s 1, 200 saved. And that’s that’s fairly good ROI. Even when your invoice charges like 10 bucks an hour, proper, there’s nonetheless 40 of time that you just didn’t burn on a process that you just had a machine do.

In order that’s an enormous half is knowing what anytimes somebody talks about ROI and value, it’s a must to take into consideration ROI is a monetary formulation, earn minus spent divided by spent. So you may both earn extra or spend much less. With regards to AI, significantly the alternatives for the usage of AI, it’s normally going to be on the spend much less aspect, proper?

So you may spend much less time as a result of time is time isn’t cash, however time equates to cash and other people, individuals spend cash to purchase time. That’s what you’re basically you’re doing with AI. So if you should use the instruments to purchase your self extra time by automating issues or improve the standard of your work, then the price virtually is irrelevant, so long as there’s a transparent monetary impression on the earned aspect.

So for instance, you’re speaking about the way you’d wish to develop questions for company, one of many issues that the present scorching ones does. Now they use people try this I might not use people to do that. However you may However they attempt to, they actually try to do deep cuts and ask questions that different individuals don’t ask.

One of many issues that just about each present does is that they type of are inclined to ask the identical basic questions. One of many issues {that a} intelligent podcaster with the ability of AI might do is go to YouTube, seize each visitor interview that you’ll find of that individual, seize the captions recordsdata from all these movies, after which put that right into a software like Gemini and say, Oh, right here’s the all of the interviews that this individual has finished.

undergo all of them. What questions on this subject? I’ve this individual not been requested. And you’ll provide you with actually good questions, insightful questions, difficult questions that can make the individual go, Huh, nobody’s ever requested me that earlier than. Proper. And that’s it’s a it’s an instance of how do you employ these instruments to extend high quality.

And so that you now we’re on the opposite aspect of ROI. If the present is extra compelling, the visitor is like, that was a very good interview. I’ll spend a while perhaps sharing that as a result of I bought to ask questions I’ve by no means been requested earlier than. And for the listeners, it’ll be the Oh, it’s not the identical outdated, you understand, Oh, God, it’s Chris once more, he’s gonna say the identical eight issues he stated on the final 22 reveals he’s been on.

Like that is now Oh, that’s completely different. That’s a query. Nobody’s ever heard earlier than. That’s a solution. Nobody’s ever heard earlier than. That’s fairly cool.

[00:45:38] Mike Allton: I really like that. To start with, it’s a subject that Andy Crestodina, who was a earlier visitor on the present was speaking about from a unique perspective. He was speaking about content material hole evaluation, and he made the purpose cleverly that as people, it’s actually onerous for us to determine what’s lacking.

Or what’s not their AI. That’s no drawback by any means. And in relation to podcasting particularly, I’ve finished what you’ve steered, proper? I’ve finished the analysis. I had Rory Sutherland on a present a couple of years in the past and Rory’s wonderful. His thoughts is, is intense. And. A wealth of knowledge. We’ll put it that approach.

And he’s been interviewed tons of and tons of of occasions. And so to discover a query that he’s by no means been requested earlier than wouldn’t solely be fascinating to your level to the viewers, however once more, to your level, can be extremely highly effective in constructing a relationship and rapport with Rory and I. Did that. And it took me days to type out and hear and analyze all of the completely different interviews he’s been on speaking about businesses.

He works for Ogilvy who these of you perhaps don’t know him. That was an intense venture. It’s not one thing I might even remotely take into consideration duplicating ever once more. For a lot of the company. When, as I stated, I’m interviewing for six reveals every week, however you’re proper. What if I instructed you you may

[00:46:52] Christopher S. Penn: try this in 10 minutes or much less?[00:46:55] Mike Allton: Yeah, no, I’m severe. Like I[00:46:57] Christopher S. Penn: instructed you, you are able to do that in 10 minutes or much less, however completely try this. So let me present you, let’s do a fast walkthrough. Let’s go to, I’m going to share my display screen right here. Let’s go to YouTube. Let’s do Christopher Penn interview. Proper. And we’re going to search out people who find themselves not the useless actor.

So we’ve a bunch of these items. So you’d basically undergo and seize all these URLs. So let’s undergo and I’m gonna simply do a pattern a couple of examples right here. And I’ve a software referred to as OpenList, which simply captures the URLs in your browser tab, proper? That’s, that’s all that does. Very easy.

We take these URLs, we put them into good quaint textual content file. I’ll name this Chris interviews. Now, there’s a free open supply software referred to as YT DLP, YouTube Downloader. And what this software does is when you’re aware of the command line, it permits you to seize assets from YouTube. One of many issues you are able to do is have it seize solely the captions recordsdata.

So let’s put this in right here. So it’s going to undergo and seize each single one among these captions recordsdata and retailer them on the desktop there. These captions recordsdata are one thing that generative AI is completely able to studying. So we’ve bought a appears to be like like we bought eight or 9 right here. So let’s now take go into Google’s AI studio.

Let’s go into a brand new immediate right here. we’re going to do some evaluation of interviews. I’m going to offer you VTT captions recordsdata. What are you aware about studying VTT recordsdata. So we’re going to prime the mannequin. I’m going to alter the the professional mannequin as a substitute of the flash mannequin as a result of flash is dumb as bag of hammers.

I’m gonna flip off all of the safeties as a result of I wish to reside dangerously. And it’s going to learn by way of the VTT recordsdata. Now the VTT recordsdata most likely going to should be transformed into textual content. So let’s go forward and try this. And we’re going to truly do we have to try this? I don’t know if we do. Let’s let’s give it a shot.

Let’s see what occurs. We’re gonna go add to drive. And let’s take one of many every of those little textual content recordsdata, drag them in.

It says textual content recordsdata we add from this immediate. Okay, it didn’t try this. So we’d have so as to add that in as change the format to textual content which bought a couple of minutes right here. I really wrote a chunk of code to do that as a result of I bought bored with doing it by hand sucks. And so there’s a captions.

All proper, good. Now we’ve bought textual content recordsdata. That was a lot less complicated. We load these textual content recordsdata in

There we go.

It’ll do the evaluation of them.

I wish to perceive what questions Christopher Penn has not been requested in these interviews which might be related to his subject. of research, particularly knowledge science and AI. And so it is a toy instance. You’d wish to spend just a little bit extra time on these prompts. That is only a quite simple instance, however these are the, right here’s what was requested and what did talk about right here, some basic matters which might be no less than related that weren’t lined within the Q and a issues like he mentions RNNs, however doesn’t delve into element, et cetera.

So that is an instance of, and we did this in what, seven minutes. Yeah, taking a bunch of YouTube movies, grabbing all of the captions, placing them into Gemini, and the saying, right here’s the questions you may ask as a podcaster that haven’t been requested. And you may take just a little bit extra time to search out extra interviews, perhaps discover some podcasting information, get them transcribed and so forth and so forth.

This similar approach for entrepreneurs, by the way in which, is among the issues that you ought to be doing along with your advertising and marketing. As a result of guess what? What number of, what number of actually good gross sales podcasts are you aware of Mike?

[00:51:18] Mike Allton: Gross sales podcasts. That’s not my space. So perhaps a pair,[00:51:22] Christopher S. Penn: proper. Nicely, you understand, they’re on the market. There’s like a few dozen, like actually good gross sales podcasts, of us like Marcus Sheridan, Matt Hines, et cetera.

Go seize the captions from their gross sales podcasts, have it construct a complete information to how Marcus Sheridan thinks about gross sales. Now you’ve bought a, a blob of data says that is how Marcus does gross sales. then take that and say, right here’s our gross sales playbook as a company, vet it in opposition to Marcus’s methodologies.

Inform me how we might enhance our gross sales. If you happen to’re a marketer, go to Andy Crestodina’s channel on YouTube, the place each interview Andy Crestodina has finished, seize all his stuff, digest it down, or go to his weblog, which is wonderful. Seize it, digest down, say, right here’s Andy’s instruments, you understand, concepts for occasion a touchdown web page.

for conversion price optimization. Right here’s the HTML for our touchdown web page. Inform me enhance it utilizing Andy’s concepts. Each single piece of content material that you’ve ever come throughout as a marketer, an book, a white paper, a information, a podcast interview is fodder. for an AI software to create rubrics and scoring mechanisms and evaluation of your stuff.

In order a marketer, you may sit there and say, nicely, I’ve bought this electronic mail marketing campaign, who do I do know that does wonderful electronic mail advertising and marketing, seize all their stuff from pub in public, proper? Don’t, you understand, use stuff that’s publicly on the market. They’ve they’ve put on the web so that you can eat and say construct me a define a abstract of the way in which they suppose.

And now vet my content material in opposition to that. So you may take all of the stuff that you understand, you ought to be doing that, you understand, you ought to be doing extra with CRO, you understand, you ought to be doing extra with electronic mail advertising and marketing, you understand, you ought to be doing extra with search engine optimization, however you don’t have time, take all this information that you’ve captured for the final 510 1520 years of specialists and have AI faux to be that individual and apply it in opposition to your stuff, proper?

That’s the smartest factor that you are able to do with the keep in mind, whoever has probably the most finest knowledge wins. If you happen to take the time to build up all this knowledge that you just’ve have been with all these conferences, you’ve gone to purchase all these podcast interviews you’ve finished and switch it into that AI can successfully leverage, then you should use the advantages of that.

My pal Tamsin Webster wrote an incredible e book referred to as discover the crimson thread. She’s finished a gazillion and a half speeches. I’ve taken the general public speeches, not her e book, as a result of that’s not given away at no cost. However the speeches she’s finished on YouTube that she offers away at no cost. I simply did that down stated, remains to be the essence of the crimson thread framework.

It does the AI does that claims, Oh, now I’ve bought my digital Tamsin. Each time I’ve wish to have legs say right here’s my content material, digital Tamsin, how would you apply the Purple Thread framework to this and make it higher? And it says, right here’s the issues that you just’re lacking. Much less nicer than Tamsin does. Tamsin is a superb human being.

Like, oh, I forgot this and this and this and this. And so I’ve a digital Tamsin anytime I wish to vet my content material. So the individuals that you just look as much as that you just admire, In advertising and marketing, in gross sales, in no matter self-discipline use the publicly given away stuff, and you’ve got that professional on faucet everytime you want them.

[00:54:43] Mike Allton: Wow. What a robust method to end Chris. That was extremely insightful of us. I feel you’re going to wish to return and hearken to that section a number of occasions and actually simply ingest this tactic and this technique that Chris simply shared. That was incredible. Chris, for folk who do wish to study extra, who need your assist and wish to carry you into their group, the place can they go to search out you and study extra about you?

The simplest

[00:55:06] Christopher S. Penn: place to search out me is a belief insights. ai. Or if you need the private model, go to Christopher s pen. com. However belief insights. ai is the place you will get our skilled assist referred to as out operators standing by.[00:55:22] Mike Allton: Improbable. That’s all we’ve bought for at this time, mates. Thanks, Chris, for being with us.

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